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HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO TRAIN A DOG?

This is the most difficult question to answer. Since people’s wants and expectations are so different, the training time for different dogs can be as little as 4 weeks or as much as 18 months.  There are many variables to consider when answering this question: 1) is your dog from trainable breeding stock? 2) have you done anything to impair the training process? and 3) are you, the owner, going to follow through with what your dog has learned and continue to reinforce your dog’s education?

 

Another issue to consider is that of the E-collar. After working with approximately 1,000 dogs I believe that the best way for anyone to have total control of his dog 100% of the time is to use the E-collar. Sure you can train without it and have the usual varied results and hope that your dog will comply (especially when it is running across the road), but using the E-collar properly will insure that you will get the results desired.

 

Whatever beliefs you hold about training your dog (whether you do the job on your own or if you get help from a trainer) you are the one who needs to decide what it is that you expect your dog to be able to do and what degree of performance you can live with.

 

GENERAL OBEDIANCE:

This is the foundation for everything else your dog will ever learn in training. Sometimes overlooked and many times rushed, without this tedious training your dog will never reach the pinnacle of what training can be whether it becomes a great companion in the home or the world’s best hunting dog.

 

You can expect that your dog will need 4-8 weeks of obedience training to be a good companion dog. This training can begin around the age of 5 months. We work these dogs daily on such skills as sit, stay down, place, not jumping, not biting, not barking, walking at heel on or off a leash, and most importantly to come when called 100% of the time. Many dogs will accept our methods quickly. However, we find that it takes around 100 times of continued repetition before the dog is doing these tasks readily.

 

GENERAL TRAINING POINTS:

>>Early bird encounters have a long-term effect. The birds used are not as important as getting the dog used to the behavior and smell of birds - bird scent is bird scent.

 

>>A dog is never too old to learn. However, many dogs learn behaviors that are contradictory to gun dog training. Any of these behaviors must be corrected before it can move on in its training.

 

>>Training is happening at all times whether the dog is with a trainer or at home. Remember not all training is productive.

 

>>Training should be a coordinated effort between the trainer and the owners. Transitions need to be made but practices should be continued and reinforced with all interactions.

 

>>Whether you train with or without the E-collar, it is up to you and should be discussed with the trainer. Remember that when talking with people about the E-collar you should make sure that the people you are talking with are experienced and knowledgeable. Don’t ask someone what he thinks of the E-collar, ask him what he knows about the E-collar. For more information on the E-collar see the article in the John’s Articles section of the website.

 

>>Problems in a dog’s behavior may be man made, innate, or a combination of the two. Both must be considered when training.

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Kirby Mountain Sporting Dogs

 

At Kirby Mountain Sporting Dogs, our training methods have culminated from basic obedience techniques, pointing dog training, retriever technical training, and electronic collar training. Through many years we have developed a no nonsense and effective way to train dogs so that you can live with your dog as a loving companion or as a world class hunter or competition dog. We want you to be happy with the dog you get from us. We will work with you to insure that your dog is a healthy and happy addition to your family. Whether you leave it for training or contact us with questions, we will do our best to give you productive and doable solutions.

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Our philosophy is that it is better to put the time and money in early so that you have the next ten to fifteen years with a trained and compliant dog: one you can be proud of.

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STEP ONE - HEAD START

Training Time: Four to Eight Weeks

Dogs: Ages 5 months to 1-year-old or Older dogs with no experience

 

This program is a very gentle approach to your dog’s start as a hunting dog. We will introduce your dog to guns, birds, the woods, and water. After 100 exposures to each of these things, we will be on the road to success. Also employed are all of the skills used in the general obedience training listed above.

 

The longer a dog is left with us the more times we can go over each task. As most trainers agree, the three most important things in training are repetition, repetition, and repetition. The more reinforcement your dog receives, the more likely the training will stay. After the head start program the dogs are sent home to be with their families and to enjoy hunting their first season.

 

Some of you will want more out of your dog and may consider force breaking (trained retrieve). What this means is that the dog will go to the object to be retrieved and bring it back to you 100% of the time. The dog will not chew the object but will hold it in front of you until you tell the dog to drop the object. For the forced retrieve to be complete takes at the very least an additional 8 weeks. I might add that the earlier it is done in the dog’s life the better because there will be fewer bad habits to get rid of in this training procedure.

 


STEP TWO - YEAR 2

Training Time: Six to Twelve Weeks depending on owner expectations and finances

Dogs: Second year dogs – Those who have completed Step One

 

What we find is that second year dogs start right where they left off. After talking with you about concerns and some of the shortcomings your dog had in the first season, we fix the problem areas and work on to the next group of skills. The type of training will depend on the type of work your dog will do in the field.

 

Pointers: staunchness on point, steady to wing, steady to wing and shot, backing/honoring, and retrieving to hand.

 

Waterfowl dogs: steadiness in the boat or blind, multiple retrieves, starting on blind retrieves.

 

Flushing dogs: extreme control, sit to flush, retrieving to hand.

 

STEP THREE - YEAR THREE

Training Time: Six to Twelve Weeks

Dogs: Third year dogs – Those who have completed Step Two

 

This year would cover all the concepts of year two while adding more complex tasks such as multiple bird flushes and confusion drills in order to solidify the greatness in your dog. At this point you would settle for nothing less than perfection in your dog’s performance in the field.  When a dog completes this course it would be in the upper 95% of all hunting dogs hunting today.

 

STEP FOUR - CONDITIONING/ONGOING

Some dogs continue to come after the third year for conditioning and continued hunting experience-tune ups. For people with limited hunting time, training can have your dog in shape and tuned to perfection. Getting your dog out on birds in simulated hunting situations is a great way to get your dog in shape so that your first day of the season will be a success.

 

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